I wish I could put a gif in a comment. It would be a clip of Alyssa Edwards of RuPaul’s Drag Race fame saying “I’m not old. I’m ESTABLISHED” while waving a sassy finger in the air.
May 31, 2022·edited May 31, 2022Liked by Tegan and Sara
There's always room for improvement but in the present we're the best version of ourselves, the person we are today knows something we didn't yesterday, we're in our prime, always. You're just older, not old. ❤️
Sometimes I feel like I just graduated high school. Then I remember I have a shoe horn in my locker at work so it's easier to put my sneakers on and think... Yea, I'm getting old, haha.
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Hey Tegan,
I’ll try not to make my comment so long this time. I have to admit part of me reading this was like ‘noooooooo!’ But I also understand, I’m not famous (obviously) but covid has made everyone (ok not most teens, but I’m not most teens, everyone else), assess their priorities, I figured out a lot about my identity over Melbourne’s many many lockdowns (fun fact I spent more time doing ‘online learning’ in 2020 and 2021 than I did at actual school, and for me that was year 8 & 9). I think for teens, we haven’t built some of the essential social connections that we need and this year I’m seeing the consequences. Also I’d like to say, as a teen, I don’t think of you or Sara as old, I think of you two as people who have more life experience. In my opinion you have to be at least 45 to be middle aged or even 50, so you’ve still got a ways to go. Often I forget you two are in your 40’s, unless one of you says something about ‘kids these days’ or Sara talks about how old your both getting (I noticed that in the press too after you turned 35.) in terms of your music I agree it transcends age, most of my friends laugh when I tell them the title of FUWM. That song actually helped me through something really personal today, so thanks to you and Sara for that! Can’t wait to hear the next few songs and the rest of the album, and see the videos!!!
I think that is one very cool thing about music. It DOES transcend age and so many other things. It brings us together. No matter who we are. Anyone can relate and all of us can be different but all love the same song. It keeps us all young!
Uhgh. I have a lot of thoughts about this so sorry already in advance.
I will turn 30 in 50 days. Last week I saw My Chemical Romance live. These two things are really taking a lot of my mental space.
In many ways I have felt 30 for many years now. I didn't have wild 20s. I graduated at 23 and went straight to very demanding career. Most of my friends are older than me, so Ive been at their 30s club and just seldom reminding them, that i'm still not 30. This will now end. Do i feel old? No. Bit i do feel secure in my life and identity.
Wich brings me to seeing MCR. That show last week, that show that i bought tickets two years ago and spend hundreds of euros on flights and accomodation, was trully the most magical experience of my life. I have seen them now 3 times (as many times as you two btw), and even tough the first time in 2007, when i was 14, will always hold such meaning and love, i now also know, that it was a shitty show and the band had a horrible time.
This time, everything was different. The band was different, we were different. It trully felt like all of us thousands of elder emos were just rejoising in our elderness. Like we were celebrating the fact that we got to grow up. We didn't give up. We now get to just want to go to bed after the show and drink plenty of water. Because we made it, and they made it. And to see the new generation, the teenagers who apparently should scare the shit out of me, but actually fill my heart with Joy. I hope, that those teens got the feeling of it gets better from us. That its not a phase, except for the things that are. That they too can grow up to be an elder emo, mosh for your life and then have a cup of tea after the show.
I'm hoping a fellow elder emos can recognize this feeling. This complete Joy and happiness for the fact that we get to feel old. And so youg at the same time.
Teenagers, Kids from yesterday and Famous last Words trully do hit differently at 30, when you grew up with those songs.
I feel this. Just turned 34, but mentally I’m still 18 and wondering where the time went. I’ve definitely reached my “get off my lawn, you hooligans” phase. I’m always telling younger people “enjoy your youth, it goes by so fast”. I’ve been to 100+ shows, but now I’m starting to only want seated shows. I can’t sleep in anymore. My body is feeling my age, but I can’t convince myself that I’ve been out of high school for almost 20 years.
LOL. Yeah, I love seated shows, and definitely have to stop myself from telling young people they are young. Almost as bad as telling anyone I'm old. I think our fixation with age is necessary. People are people.
Damn, I could’ve written this. I’m also 34 and have had so many oh fuck! moments lately, feeling as though I’ve squandered my life away. It’s jarring. I used to live for a music festival and now the thought of going to one gives me anxiety and a psychosomatic back ache from the tent camping. Cheers to peak maturity! 🍻
LOL! You have NOT squandered your life away. But I think the last few years feel like...they took something from all of us, so we have to definitely take it back. Lean into the people we are now, do what makes us happy, even if it means no more camping!
You and Sara don't look old, you started your career so young and have achieved so much in that time. I think one of the perks of aging is caring less about what people think, knowing yourself more and prioritising what is important to you rather than what the world thinks you should.
I always say we have a pandemic age cause we were robbed of two years so emotionally I'm still 26 even though I'll be 29 in a couple of months. I feel both too young and too old, not established but nearly 30 and I feel like I'm running out of time. Also my girlfriend who is the same age as me gets ID'd everywhere we go and I don't which makes me feel REALLY old!
Well said Tegan! Age is a state of mind and more to do with attitude and experience than years.
Someone once said to me that 'some people get 20 years experience and others get 1 years experience 20 times over!' I can kind of relate to that as some younger people can be so much wiser and more mature than their older counterparts!
I'm older than you two, feel young and work with young people so intend to stay as I am until I stop enjoying what I do!
I love your music, attitude and sass - but especially your values and integrity. Keep posting and doing what you do. When you get to 50 start counting backwards!
I turn 40 in December 😱. I often “joke” that I am old. Maybe it’s to mask my insecurity of getting older? I don’t like going to events if they start at 2200. Sledding with my kids seems a bit more jarring on my back.
People my age have kids in college. How am I that old? When I think about 20 years ago- it seems like that should be the 1990s.
I bought tie dye shoes because why not?
It seems like there is no way that I’m almost 40. Like 40 is a milestone that marks the decent into death. It’s not. My 30s are and have been a great decade. I look forward to what is to come. Except for my dogs aging, because dogs don’t live forever.
A few years ago my mom said she thought she should stop wearing doc martens. when i asked her why she said it was because she was too old. I told her not to say that. my mom is cool and hip and she should wear whatever she wants. i don't know why it easier to sometimes offer that advice to other people and not to ourselves. so i am GLAD you know that you don't like going out late, and sledding is hard on EVERYONES body, and that you bough tie dye shoes! GOOD FOR YOU!
Well this explains the last acoustic album. Music's too loud these days eh? Moved to a remote island so people would "stay off the lawn?" 😉 Idk how Sara means it and Tegan has established she just lies, but I've found 2 emotions connected to the phrase when it creeps into my choice of words. The first, is a self-soothing acknowledgement of the less than desirable physical changes I saw earlier that morning. The second, is all that "meh. fuck it" mindset of being a seasoned adult. Generally in that order.
I have so many thoughts about this so I’ll share a few.
On my TikTok bio, it says “I’m a tegan and sara stan” and that’s just a way to stop people from asking me if I listen to girl in red which is another meaning of “are you queer?” Thing is, 95% of my followers are my middle school students who unfortunately don’t know you, but the sentence made some curious enough to google you and one day a bunch of grade 8 students came up to me and asked if that’s my favorite band, and I said yes. A student jumped and said “THEY’RE OLD. I GOOGLED THEM.” I was like “Well, I’m old.” And the student responded, “But I swear to God I thought they were in their 20s.” I have NO IDEA why that made me happy. Like what does it mean being in your 20s or 40s? This incident October 2021. It really made me think that society has put standards for aging and exclusively for women. That looking like you’re in your 20s means you look “young,” so what does looking in your 40s mean? What do teenagers think women who are in their 40s look like? I remember when I was a teenager I thought a 40 year old was OLD and their life is almost over. And I honestly blame society for that.
Now I’m turning 28 in June and I feel like I’m stuck at 19(call me) because that was the best year of my life that I discovered everything about myself. When I turned 25, I cried in the pub I was celebrating my birthday at. I felt like I was aging without doing something important in my life. To me, that was finding love and being with someone because all my friends were in serious relationships. I remember crying for days, feeling like a loser. Now I’m almost 28, I am STILL single but I don’t care. Maybe I got too comfortable being single, maybe I now reached a better maturity level than before knowing I am still young and that getting older doesn’t mean I’ll never find someone to be with (that’s literally what I used to think; that if I reach my 30s without someone in my life I’ll die single because I thought 30 was old).
Thing is whenever I joke with my students about age in class, I say, “I’m old.” And it just comes out naturally even though, I know for a fact, that 27 or 28 or any age isn’t old. Maybe to a 14 year old it is. Plus, the more I hang out with those kids, I become like them which is a but embarrassing because I’m starting to dress and behave like Gen Z when without noticing.
So I guess age has to do with the people and what they have been taught about it. To a teenager, whatever age after 25 is old and that’s what I noticed. When you reach any age, you don’t know you’re really old because you don’t feel it, but society tells you that you are and some of us sadly believe it.
I agree that our view of age changes as we do just that, age. I'm now 38 and don't feel it most days (somedays I feel like I'm in an 80 year old body haha). Alot of my dreams and aspirations have changed but a lot I don't know what they've changed to. I'm certainly not where I thought I'd be by now (ask me in my 20's and I would have said married with a husband and stay at home mom raising my kids)....turns out that's not what I want anymore. Coming out last June was like a re-birth of sorts where I have to reimagine my entire future. Its invigorating but very daunting to think about starting over at this age. I've come to learn that we are ever evolving and changing throughout our life. Looking at myself now and probably like you, since I was in my early 30's, I don't feel or see my age when I look in the mirror. I don't feel like numbers matter anymore. My bff's are 17 and 14 years older than me and it doesn't matter but if I had besties who were 40 when I was 23 I would probably have viewed it differently. Anyways I hope you have enjoyed your time in Calgary (hope you opened the package and read the letters by now and passed on the stuff. Still crossing my fingers for the returns) and look forward to the next big thing. Until then it doesn't matter to me whether Tegan and Sara are the biggest names in town or the top album...you're #1 to me now and always will be. So grateful for you and your communities presence in my newly forming life. Sending luv and positive vibes that you get back to feeling 100% quickly.
When I was little I wanted to grow up quickly, but now I'm 24 and I wish I could stop time:)..All of humanity has been cursed with death, and this is in an aging or sudden way(young)..Maybe sudden death is best anyway..I'm not afraid of getting old, of dying but I fear that my dreams and hopes will die..Tegan, this was a very emotional post..I love both of you and I don't care about your age..I just care that you're human..That's all.
Also Made music for you two and hope you two like.😱😱
I wish I could put a gif in a comment. It would be a clip of Alyssa Edwards of RuPaul’s Drag Race fame saying “I’m not old. I’m ESTABLISHED” while waving a sassy finger in the air.
Oh! I like that. Established! Yup!
There's always room for improvement but in the present we're the best version of ourselves, the person we are today knows something we didn't yesterday, we're in our prime, always. You're just older, not old. ❤️
My ex used to say, you're as young as you're ever going to look again, so enjoy it when I complained about how i looked in photos LOL!
Call me
never gets old.
You've started an immortal trend, be proud!
Ps. As the unofficial memer, I HAD TO comment it
Sometimes I feel like I just graduated high school. Then I remember I have a shoe horn in my locker at work so it's easier to put my sneakers on and think... Yea, I'm getting old, haha.
LOL! Sofia bought a shoe horn recently. I bit my tongue. She has not used it once. I think it was a strange impulse buy.
Honestly, they are amazing. Highly recommend lol
Aging like fine wine, the both of you!
I feel old... but still not an adult 🤷♀️
Hey Tegan,
I’ll try not to make my comment so long this time. I have to admit part of me reading this was like ‘noooooooo!’ But I also understand, I’m not famous (obviously) but covid has made everyone (ok not most teens, but I’m not most teens, everyone else), assess their priorities, I figured out a lot about my identity over Melbourne’s many many lockdowns (fun fact I spent more time doing ‘online learning’ in 2020 and 2021 than I did at actual school, and for me that was year 8 & 9). I think for teens, we haven’t built some of the essential social connections that we need and this year I’m seeing the consequences. Also I’d like to say, as a teen, I don’t think of you or Sara as old, I think of you two as people who have more life experience. In my opinion you have to be at least 45 to be middle aged or even 50, so you’ve still got a ways to go. Often I forget you two are in your 40’s, unless one of you says something about ‘kids these days’ or Sara talks about how old your both getting (I noticed that in the press too after you turned 35.) in terms of your music I agree it transcends age, most of my friends laugh when I tell them the title of FUWM. That song actually helped me through something really personal today, so thanks to you and Sara for that! Can’t wait to hear the next few songs and the rest of the album, and see the videos!!!
Phoenix, he/they/ri/it, 15, Australia
I think that is one very cool thing about music. It DOES transcend age and so many other things. It brings us together. No matter who we are. Anyone can relate and all of us can be different but all love the same song. It keeps us all young!
Uhgh. I have a lot of thoughts about this so sorry already in advance.
I will turn 30 in 50 days. Last week I saw My Chemical Romance live. These two things are really taking a lot of my mental space.
In many ways I have felt 30 for many years now. I didn't have wild 20s. I graduated at 23 and went straight to very demanding career. Most of my friends are older than me, so Ive been at their 30s club and just seldom reminding them, that i'm still not 30. This will now end. Do i feel old? No. Bit i do feel secure in my life and identity.
Wich brings me to seeing MCR. That show last week, that show that i bought tickets two years ago and spend hundreds of euros on flights and accomodation, was trully the most magical experience of my life. I have seen them now 3 times (as many times as you two btw), and even tough the first time in 2007, when i was 14, will always hold such meaning and love, i now also know, that it was a shitty show and the band had a horrible time.
This time, everything was different. The band was different, we were different. It trully felt like all of us thousands of elder emos were just rejoising in our elderness. Like we were celebrating the fact that we got to grow up. We didn't give up. We now get to just want to go to bed after the show and drink plenty of water. Because we made it, and they made it. And to see the new generation, the teenagers who apparently should scare the shit out of me, but actually fill my heart with Joy. I hope, that those teens got the feeling of it gets better from us. That its not a phase, except for the things that are. That they too can grow up to be an elder emo, mosh for your life and then have a cup of tea after the show.
I'm hoping a fellow elder emos can recognize this feeling. This complete Joy and happiness for the fact that we get to feel old. And so youg at the same time.
Teenagers, Kids from yesterday and Famous last Words trully do hit differently at 30, when you grew up with those songs.
LOVE THIS! "elder emos" YES!!!
I feel this. Just turned 34, but mentally I’m still 18 and wondering where the time went. I’ve definitely reached my “get off my lawn, you hooligans” phase. I’m always telling younger people “enjoy your youth, it goes by so fast”. I’ve been to 100+ shows, but now I’m starting to only want seated shows. I can’t sleep in anymore. My body is feeling my age, but I can’t convince myself that I’ve been out of high school for almost 20 years.
LOL. Yeah, I love seated shows, and definitely have to stop myself from telling young people they are young. Almost as bad as telling anyone I'm old. I think our fixation with age is necessary. People are people.
Damn, I could’ve written this. I’m also 34 and have had so many oh fuck! moments lately, feeling as though I’ve squandered my life away. It’s jarring. I used to live for a music festival and now the thought of going to one gives me anxiety and a psychosomatic back ache from the tent camping. Cheers to peak maturity! 🍻
LOL! You have NOT squandered your life away. But I think the last few years feel like...they took something from all of us, so we have to definitely take it back. Lean into the people we are now, do what makes us happy, even if it means no more camping!
You and Sara don't look old, you started your career so young and have achieved so much in that time. I think one of the perks of aging is caring less about what people think, knowing yourself more and prioritising what is important to you rather than what the world thinks you should.
I always say we have a pandemic age cause we were robbed of two years so emotionally I'm still 26 even though I'll be 29 in a couple of months. I feel both too young and too old, not established but nearly 30 and I feel like I'm running out of time. Also my girlfriend who is the same age as me gets ID'd everywhere we go and I don't which makes me feel REALLY old!
You're totally right!
Well said Tegan! Age is a state of mind and more to do with attitude and experience than years.
Someone once said to me that 'some people get 20 years experience and others get 1 years experience 20 times over!' I can kind of relate to that as some younger people can be so much wiser and more mature than their older counterparts!
I'm older than you two, feel young and work with young people so intend to stay as I am until I stop enjoying what I do!
I love your music, attitude and sass - but especially your values and integrity. Keep posting and doing what you do. When you get to 50 start counting backwards!
Love this advice, Sarah!
I turn 40 in December 😱. I often “joke” that I am old. Maybe it’s to mask my insecurity of getting older? I don’t like going to events if they start at 2200. Sledding with my kids seems a bit more jarring on my back.
People my age have kids in college. How am I that old? When I think about 20 years ago- it seems like that should be the 1990s.
I bought tie dye shoes because why not?
It seems like there is no way that I’m almost 40. Like 40 is a milestone that marks the decent into death. It’s not. My 30s are and have been a great decade. I look forward to what is to come. Except for my dogs aging, because dogs don’t live forever.
A few years ago my mom said she thought she should stop wearing doc martens. when i asked her why she said it was because she was too old. I told her not to say that. my mom is cool and hip and she should wear whatever she wants. i don't know why it easier to sometimes offer that advice to other people and not to ourselves. so i am GLAD you know that you don't like going out late, and sledding is hard on EVERYONES body, and that you bough tie dye shoes! GOOD FOR YOU!
Well this explains the last acoustic album. Music's too loud these days eh? Moved to a remote island so people would "stay off the lawn?" 😉 Idk how Sara means it and Tegan has established she just lies, but I've found 2 emotions connected to the phrase when it creeps into my choice of words. The first, is a self-soothing acknowledgement of the less than desirable physical changes I saw earlier that morning. The second, is all that "meh. fuck it" mindset of being a seasoned adult. Generally in that order.
Oh wait for this new album...it ain't getting quieter. :)
I keed i keed. And I'm very excited! 😍
I have so many thoughts about this so I’ll share a few.
On my TikTok bio, it says “I’m a tegan and sara stan” and that’s just a way to stop people from asking me if I listen to girl in red which is another meaning of “are you queer?” Thing is, 95% of my followers are my middle school students who unfortunately don’t know you, but the sentence made some curious enough to google you and one day a bunch of grade 8 students came up to me and asked if that’s my favorite band, and I said yes. A student jumped and said “THEY’RE OLD. I GOOGLED THEM.” I was like “Well, I’m old.” And the student responded, “But I swear to God I thought they were in their 20s.” I have NO IDEA why that made me happy. Like what does it mean being in your 20s or 40s? This incident October 2021. It really made me think that society has put standards for aging and exclusively for women. That looking like you’re in your 20s means you look “young,” so what does looking in your 40s mean? What do teenagers think women who are in their 40s look like? I remember when I was a teenager I thought a 40 year old was OLD and their life is almost over. And I honestly blame society for that.
Now I’m turning 28 in June and I feel like I’m stuck at 19(call me) because that was the best year of my life that I discovered everything about myself. When I turned 25, I cried in the pub I was celebrating my birthday at. I felt like I was aging without doing something important in my life. To me, that was finding love and being with someone because all my friends were in serious relationships. I remember crying for days, feeling like a loser. Now I’m almost 28, I am STILL single but I don’t care. Maybe I got too comfortable being single, maybe I now reached a better maturity level than before knowing I am still young and that getting older doesn’t mean I’ll never find someone to be with (that’s literally what I used to think; that if I reach my 30s without someone in my life I’ll die single because I thought 30 was old).
Thing is whenever I joke with my students about age in class, I say, “I’m old.” And it just comes out naturally even though, I know for a fact, that 27 or 28 or any age isn’t old. Maybe to a 14 year old it is. Plus, the more I hang out with those kids, I become like them which is a but embarrassing because I’m starting to dress and behave like Gen Z when without noticing.
So I guess age has to do with the people and what they have been taught about it. To a teenager, whatever age after 25 is old and that’s what I noticed. When you reach any age, you don’t know you’re really old because you don’t feel it, but society tells you that you are and some of us sadly believe it.
I agree that our view of age changes as we do just that, age. I'm now 38 and don't feel it most days (somedays I feel like I'm in an 80 year old body haha). Alot of my dreams and aspirations have changed but a lot I don't know what they've changed to. I'm certainly not where I thought I'd be by now (ask me in my 20's and I would have said married with a husband and stay at home mom raising my kids)....turns out that's not what I want anymore. Coming out last June was like a re-birth of sorts where I have to reimagine my entire future. Its invigorating but very daunting to think about starting over at this age. I've come to learn that we are ever evolving and changing throughout our life. Looking at myself now and probably like you, since I was in my early 30's, I don't feel or see my age when I look in the mirror. I don't feel like numbers matter anymore. My bff's are 17 and 14 years older than me and it doesn't matter but if I had besties who were 40 when I was 23 I would probably have viewed it differently. Anyways I hope you have enjoyed your time in Calgary (hope you opened the package and read the letters by now and passed on the stuff. Still crossing my fingers for the returns) and look forward to the next big thing. Until then it doesn't matter to me whether Tegan and Sara are the biggest names in town or the top album...you're #1 to me now and always will be. So grateful for you and your communities presence in my newly forming life. Sending luv and positive vibes that you get back to feeling 100% quickly.
When I was little I wanted to grow up quickly, but now I'm 24 and I wish I could stop time:)..All of humanity has been cursed with death, and this is in an aging or sudden way(young)..Maybe sudden death is best anyway..I'm not afraid of getting old, of dying but I fear that my dreams and hopes will die..Tegan, this was a very emotional post..I love both of you and I don't care about your age..I just care that you're human..That's all.
Also Made music for you two and hope you two like.😱😱
https://l24.im/AJPg6
love you two💗💗