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This week - more answers from the CRUSH book tour. This time I'm answering questions from the Toronto event we did in support of CRUSH! I cover everything from my favorite Chappell Roan song to what tattoo I would have gotten if I could have gotten one in Junior High! Plus tons about future collaborations, adaptations and music! If you want to know the status of my drivers license, our next album or get some advice for surviving junior high, have a listen. (Or read the transcript below).
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Tegan
Hello everybody. It's Tegan. I'm back this week on, I Think We're Alone Now answering questions from the Toronto stop of the Crush book tour. I want to thank everybody who came out to all the book events in October. We got way too many questions every night to answer them in person, so I am diligently making my way through and answering them for y'all here on I Think We're Alone Now. Thank you so much to everyone who has been subscribing and who has been a subscriber, and if you are listening and you're not yet subscribed, consider subscribing. It's free. So I'm going to work my way down these questions from the Toronto stop on the Crush book tour. Those that don't know what Crush is. Crush is the second graphic novel in a duology we have called Junior High. And Junior High was the first book, and then the second book was called Crush. It's a collaboration with cartoonist and illustrator Tillie Walden. I highly recommend you get some of her work. She's incredible.
We wrote these books during the pandemic. You write graphic novels as a script, and then we sent them to Tillie, and then Tillie draws them and makes a lot of amazing choices and helped us, I think, really elevate these books into a world we didn't ever imagine even entering. So we're really proud of the books you can get both online or at your favorite in indie bookstore. And now I'm going to jump into the questions from our Toronto stop. We did a book event there in October at OCAD. It was really, really special. Loved it. And yeah, we only got to a couple questions, so I'm going to blaze my way through these. Thanks so much for listening. I will also put up a transcript of this audio file. Should you find yourself thinking, I don't want to listen to Tegan talking, understandable. No worries.
All right, the first question was, any plans on continuing the volumes of the graphic novel? So Sara and I and Tillie only agreed to do two books together. We're obviously all very busy, and Tillie is an incredible artist with a very big career of her own, so Junior High and Crush is just a two book series. We won't be continuing it, but we have talked about collaborating again with Tillie, probably on something for the adult space. So, you know, don't hold your breath. It's not going to be anytime soon, but we definitely want to collaborate with Tillie again. She's amazing, so, but I highly recommend all of Tillie's work if you're having a hankering for more of her incredible stories and designs.
As a writer myself, I was wondering what the writing process is like. How do you two split the work? What are some of the difficulties you've had to overcome? This is a great question. So, you know, in music, Sara and I write solely on our own. We write the vast majority of our music from our catalog has been written separately. We collaborate once we get in the studio, and, you know, make suggestions about lyrics or melodies or structure. But like I said, the vast majority of our work is done separately, at solo, and it's kind of how we've always worked. And when we worked on high school, our memoir is kind of similar. You know, once we got into the thick of writing, we created an outline for 10th, 11th and 12th grade, and we peppered that outline with stories that we each wanted to tell, and then we figured out how we would, you know, alternate our stories to tell a cohesive version of our high school experience from both of our perspectives. So, you know, it was a challenge in itself, and we used those skills to figure out how to write Junior High our first graphic novel. So, graphic novels, for those that don't know, you write them as a script. So Sara started the process and wrote a few chapters in script form, and then passed them on to me, and I just kind of picked up the story from there. So unlike with high school, our memoir, we didn't write in our own voice. We wrote in the voice of all the characters, and we didn't have a clear outline. We sort of had a rough idea of what we wanted Junior High to be and we had two really amazing editors who helped guide us through the process to create more conflict, to create more, you know, interesting arcs to the story, but generally how we wrote it was just sending back and forth chapters with a sort of a very choose your own adventure style. I think some of the difficulties to overcome, you know, has been, what if we don't agree to the vision or the change or the shift in the story? What if we don't like a character? What if I delete things Sara's written that she liked? Did I keep her changes or keep the changes, you know, like, there's, there's been, like, some natural hurdles and difficulties we've had to figure out. But we're getting there, you know, we're writing two more books next year, one for the adult space and one for the kids space again, and I do feel like we're going into it with a little more experience, and hopefully we won't have as many hurdles to overcome. But you know, that's partly why we like making art, is the risks and the challenges and the learning and ultimately, the collaboration. That's why we do so much stuff together.
So my five year old daughter and I read your books for her bedtime stories. She's mad I came here without her past her bedtime. I'm wondering if you'd sign books for her. Completely understand if this is impossible. I thought it never hurts to ask. Thank you. Well, it's been like a month, and I'm not able to sign your daughter's books. But I will say this, I think it's so sweet that you're reading our books to your five year old daughter. I think that's really wonderful. I know reading with our mom and dad when we were kids was such a special time for us, and we started reading very young, and it's been such an important part of my life. So I'm big fan of hearing parents who read to their kids before bed. I'm sorry we didn't get to sign the books for your daughter, although I will say, I believe at OCAD, we signed all the books that were for sale there, so maybe if you bought a book there, there it was signed. But I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to sign the books, but I hope your daughter continues to enjoy reading, and we'll see you all at a show sometime.
Hi, my name is Courtney. Are you going to do more acoustic tours? We loved the last one. It was super special, and easily one of my favorite concerts of all time, if you're up to do a whole to a whole album, it'd be so cool. Keep rocking. You know, I, first of all, I loved, loved, loved the tour we just did in Ontario in March, the Not Tonight Tour, where we revisited our third album, if it was you, plus we added a bunch of other songs from our catalog. Loved it. Will absolutely do stuff like that again. You know, when we went out and did The Con 10 and 10th Anniversary Tour, it was the same thing. We played The Con stripped down and then and sort of did a set of Greatest Hits afterwards. Loved it. Yeah, I just, I love those kinds of sort of opportunities to go back and revisit our work. I love playing acoustic. I love storytelling. I love playing in small venues. You know, financially, it wasn't, it won't keep it won't keep the mortgage payments happening regularly, but we love doing it, and we'll definitely do more of it in terms of recording an acoustic album. I love that idea. We've never made an acoustic album. I definitely am thinking a lot about the future of Tegan and Sara and experimenting with putting out songs as opposed to putting out full albums, and definitely thinking about how to experiment with different sounds.I love the idea of making a super pop banger again, but also love the idea of doing a strip down acoustic song again. So, you know, I think, I think you're gonna see probably a lot of experimentation in Tegan and Sara world in the years to come. I think you never know…stand by.
After watching your documentary, Fanatical, my question is, how, after such an experience, who still lingers? Sorry, after watching your documentary, Fanatical, my question is, how, after such an experience, who still lingers, do you decide what stories and content go into your books? Do you ponder on how much to reveal, not just about yourselves, but friends as well? Thank you. The question's a little confusing in terms of how it's worded, but I think I get the gist. So our documentary, Fanatical, directed by the amazing Erin Lee Carr, that just came out is about this terrifying experience we've sort of had off and on over the last decade plus, where someone was pretending to be me online, but also pretending to be friends of mine and our managers. They managed to hack into our managers. I discord. They stored all of our songs and passports and personal information. They broke into multiple managers emails and set up auto forwarding. At one point, they got into the Tegan and Sara email. They were able to, years into it, get into my email, which I had, you know, long abandoned, but still, they were able to trick dozens of people all over the world into thinking they were talking to me or talking to people around me. And the question is, you know, you know, after such an experience, do I to a question, what goes into our books, or how much to reveal, reveal about myself and friends? I think in general, I understand this question to be like, did this, did this situation with fake Tegan and the Fanatical situation, like, did it change how I make art? No, it didn't. It changed how I share that art. It changed who I share that art with. It changed our safety and security protocols around all that. I think it certainly has changed the way the we interact with the internet and social media. It's changed the way we email and do business online, and it certainly made us a little more weary and a little more careful when it comes to fan interactions. I think in general, the internet and social media have also made us think that too, you know, like it's all happening at the same time. So I wouldn't give fake Tegan credit for everything that we've done, like in terms of changes and making ourselves more safe and secure. But you know, in general, I think we, as we've gotten older, have thought a lot more about our safety and what we share. I think we're really good at curating ourselves in a way that you feel like you're getting a lot out of us, and you're getting to know us, and we want that. That's a choice we're making. But I think there's a I think it things get blurry when people think they really know us. And I think, you know, that's something that we're working on, trying to expand on and share Fanatical was our first attempt at that. But you know, you don't know us, you don't know our friends, you don't spend time with us, you haven't hung out with us, you don't know our partners. You know, we share little details that we feel comfortable. Like, Sara's not hiding the fact that she's married and has a kid, but she's chosen not to put his face on the internet because he can't consent to that, and it's, you know, she doesn't want people to obsess over him and have access to how he looks. And so, like, you know, there's a huge part of Sara's life with Sid and her family you guys don't have access to and I think that's for the best. You know, we don't post about our friends. We don't post photos of ourselves hanging out with our friends. We don't post ourselves on holidays. We don't post ourselves with our family. We are very particular about what we'll share in terms of content in our homes. Like, we have real strict boundaries around content and what we share, but we still want to share enough about ourselves that there's depth and nuance to the music so that you can feel like you do know us. And we want to be known. Obviously, we're performers and entertainers, but it's always, always on our minds that there's a lot about our lives that we shouldn't be sharing. And I think as we've gotten older, we understand that there's a lot about our personal lives that we need to be protective of, you know, for the people we love around us. So, you know, again, I don't think that this is fake Tegan inspired. This is just the internet, the world we live in, etc. But, yeah, we're always thinking about it.
Can we anticipate any more film or series adaptations like High School? I think the way it works in the book world is certainly you have an agent that's always looking for opportunities to develop or adapt your work. So I imagine that as we continue to write, we will have opportunities to look at adapting our work. We are attached as executive producers to a comic strip called Destiny New York, which is in development right now. It has not been green lit, so who knows if it'll get made. But you know, we're definitely starting to venture out and work on other projects, and we definitely love the film and TV space. We've been very lucky that the first two things we went out and tried to sell High School and Fanatical - we did. But I don't …it's not that easy. So, we'll see.
You guys have a lot of tattoos. What tattoo would you have gotten if you could in Junior High? Oh my god, no. Don't get tattooed when you're that young. Don't get tattooed. Maybe now I can't stop, but now it's like, it's just, I'm so messy, it's fine, but, yeah, I think it's good that people can't get. I got my first tattoo at 18, and it was my first cover up. It's was a terrible tattoo. My second tattoo is I'm going to actually get it removed. So I would say, don't get tattooed in Junior High. If I could have gotten tattooed in Junior High, oh God, who knows what I would have gotten, like the Nirvana smiley face, probably.
What song that you made is your favorite to listen to? I love our album, The Con. I think it is the most Tegan and Sara sounding album. We had the most aggressive hand in the way that records sounded. Chris Walla, our producer, or who we co-produced with, look with the three of us worked in tandem with each other. That was such a collaborative experience he was so he followed the blueprint of our demos, and, you know, pushed us to play every instrument we possibly could. Yeah, I just love listening to that record. Love it.
Can we anticipate any more film? Oh, we got that question multiple times. Or maybe that person posted multiple times. Okay, same answers above.
Does a lot of your inspiration come from music? Are there any particular artist, songs, etc, that influence your creativity for Crush? That's a great question. You know, I definitely listen to a lot of music. I'm in a Sharon Van Etten, Waxahatchee, Angie McMahon, like a kind of, like alt country, alternative indie phase right now, a lot of female artists loving stuff that sounds a little raw, a little real. None of that inspired Crush, but those are just like, I'm in that kind of phase musically right now. You know, we wrote Night Fever, sort of loosely based on,like, a Carly Rae Jepsen or a Billie Eilish, like, you know, like these kind of young artists that, like, exploded when they were really young. I liked imagining if a young Tegan and Sara lived in the same city as an artist like that and made friends with them, like, how would they mentor the young Tegan and Sara? We didn't have mentors. We didn't have other artists to sort of reach out to, you know, because we kind of started before social media, so it was impossible to reach out to our idols, and not that they would have responded if we had so, yeah, I think what inspired me was just there's this new age of music where artists can reach out to each other and connect, and we now have communities of artists that we all talk to each other and share information, and it's really wonderful.
Why didn't you play your music at the book tour? Well, if we played music, we would have had to have more crew. So we would have needed a sound person, and potentially, you know, a guitar tech or someone to help with the stage. And the book tour was really small, and so it's a financial decision. If we had had a musical element, we would have had to play bigger venues. The tickets would have had to be more expensive. We just really wanted to go out and talk about the book and try to keep tickets as low as possible. So that's why we didn't add music. We also just need a break from music honestly. You know, that's why we're doing books.
What percentage of Crush would you say is based on real life? You know, we took a lot of the major story lines from Crush like, you know, Tegan and Sara losing the Battle of the Bands contest, and, you know, dealing with their first photo shoots and the pressure of their band starting to take off. And, you know, grappling with, do they want to make this their career, or should it stay just a fun, you know, extracurricular activity, you know, getting to open for night fever, like a big superstar, like, that's all pulled right from our real life experience as musicians when we started our career in high school. You know Sara, the Sara relationship with Roshini, her best friend is sort of loosely based on her first relationship in high school with her best friend. Yeah, I'd say in Crush those are the main things that are pulled real, real from our lives. Our real life, the rest of it is pretty fictionalized, but, you know, we're always peppering in things that really happen to us. We're learning that sort of what writers do.
What's the weirdest thing a fan has ever asked you to sign? I don't really love signing people's bodies because I'm worried they're going to get it tattooed, and I have a terrible signature, and I just, I'm not sure that's a good tattoo, but, gosh, we've signed everything, everything. I think when people get us to sign money, I'm like, but why?
Do you have plans to work on another autobiographical or semi autobiographical book? If so, what era would you be most compelled to focus on? We have two books we're working on. One will be more in the essay autobiographical adult space, and I don't know. I can't really expand on that right now, but TBD, I personally am very interested in the idea of writing about I love the idea of Sara and I continuing to explore the similarities and in the differences in our adult life. Even though we're sort of living this tandem life of musicians and public figures, we're making really different choices personally. And I love the idea of how to explore talking about that. Like, for example, Sara chose to have a child, but I'm, you know, focused more on, like, my dog and independence and the selfishness of being a solo human who doesn't have to raise a child, you know, like, so how do we weave together our alternative way of looking at life and experiencing life that's super interesting to me. In the adult space, in the kids space, we are writing a book that will be more like auto fiction. It will be loosely based on something that happened to us when we were very young, but it'll be most like it'll be fictionalized. So, yeah, I think, you know, we're going to continue to pull from our real life, but I think we'll probably try to move more into the fiction space. But yeah, I have no idea. I mean, you know, when inspiration strikes, you just kind of follow, follow the path. So that's what we're doing right now.
Do you sometimes find it scary to sing and talk in front of a bunch of people you don't know? Uh, no, I don't I actually find it much more scary to imagine sitting in front of a group of people than I know, and talking or sitting in front of a group of people I know, and playing like home, shows are always way harder for me than playing big festivals in the middle of nowhere. So yeah, I don't really have stage fright, which is great for me.
What advice would you give a nine year old who wants to be a singer and songwriter? What a great question. I think that you should focus on the enjoyment you get out of writing and singing. I think right now you're nine years old, you should be having fun and you should bejust expressing your creativity. Try lots of different genres of music. Yeah, just enjoy it. I would say the most important thing is to enjoy it. Do it when it feels right and it feels good. Have fun doing it. Resist the urge to, you know, make it into a job. You know, start by just just expressing it in a way that feels good.
What is my favorite Chappell Roan song? I mean, Good Luck, Babe, of course, but I love Hot to Go and Pink Pony Club, Red Wine Supernova. I mean, all of it, you know, I love it all. You know, I didn't. I found out about Chappell about a year ago because our assistant, who's really young, Emma, who has been on our Substack before, she told me to go see her. She was playing like a 300 seat venue in Vancouver, and was like, I'm going to see Chappell, you should see her. She's so cool. I was like, yeah, yeah. Who knew?
All right, what was the first song you wrote and what inspired it? The first song Sara wrote was Tegan Didn't Go to School Today. We kind of collaborated on it, and it was written in 10th grade. I didn't go to school for a few days because I was very sick. And Sara asked if she could borrow a pair of shoes of mine, there were these purple skate shoes by a company called Etnies. And as a joke, Sara wrote a song about it, and it's a good song, and I couldn't believe she wrote it.
What did you or why did you choose the colors blue and red for your colors in Junior High and Crush? So that is a Tillie Walden question, and it's a great question. And she says that she just felt like those were our colors. We didn't have a say in it, and I'm glad we didn't. I love the colors she chose for the book, and I love that she was able to creatively just make those choices without interference on our part.
Tegan, worst and best story from eighth grade? Whoosh. Well, look, the worst thing about eighth grade was that we had a tight knit group of girlfriends, and we had a huge falling out with them. I won't get into the details, because they don't really matter, but Sara and I, yeah, we had this falling out, and we ended up sort of being on our own for a lot of that year. And that ended up actually being the worst part of the year, but also kind of the best part of the best part of the year. I think for Sara and I, we also learned a lot about ourselves, and learned a lot about what we wanted out of friendships and who, you know, we wanted to connect with. We reconnected with some girls that we'd sort of disconnected with when we started Junior High, because they were like, not the popular girls, and we sort of got pulled into the popular girl group. And I think that we also learned, you know, who your real friends are. And, you know, yeah, so I think we lost a lot that year, but we also gained a lot of our identity that year. We both started to dress very strangely and get into really alternative music. And I think, you know, we just started to figure out who you were starting to write and perform your own songs.
What do you think your younger selves needed to hear so they could trust their creative process and be kind and patient with themselves? The fear of messing up, looking foolish, not being cool enough that can seem paralyzing at times, and I wonder if you have advice for teens or parents to encourage the expression and flow. You know, I have no idea where the confidence to be musicians came from. You know, we were, we were so shy in some ways, and we were very we were both really grappling with our sexuality and identity when we started playing music. And I think we used music as a mask in a way, like we were able to say things we weren't able to or we were able to sing things we weren't able to say. And I think because it was sort of in the form of poetry and this creative pursuit, you know, not very many people asked what we were writing about. I think that's the amazing beauty of music. And the vehicle of music is that it's supposed to my songs are supposed to be a vehicle for you. You're supposed to listen to what I'm singing about, and you're supposed to identify with it. You're supposed to attach it to your own experience. You shouldn't really be thinking about what I wrote about. You know, there's this whole industry in the music world where you're supposed to understand where the artist is coming from, and my heartbreak and my pain and my suffering, and who I was dating, and like what I like to eat for brunch, and what my house looks like, this whole Me, me, me, self centered culture now around celebrity, it sort of defeats the purpose. Like you shouldn't care about any of those things. You should be attaching my music to you, to your experience, your heartbreak, your relationships, your brunch. And I think as a teenager, we still had that, you know, people weren't really that inquisitive about the actual meanings of the songs. They were more like, how are you doing this? How are you writing songs? And we're attaching the songs to their own experience. Our friends were more interested in just listening to the songs and feeling the songs and relating to the songs. And I think that allowed us to trust our creative process and insert a lot of ourselves into our music from a very early, young age. And I would say, you know, my advice to teens or parents to encourage expression and flow is to, you know, not feel obligated to explain yourself, make art and leave it go unexplained, you know. And you know also, trust the process, trust, the medium, that people, if you make something or write something, that hopefully they're going to feel so inspired and connected to it, they're not going to think about what you're saying. You know, all right.
Is there an album you listen to so much in Junior High that it brings you back to the headspace where when you listen to now? If so, which album? You know, REM was a big, a big influence in Junior High. That band live put out a big album. This band Garbage, put out a big album. You know, Nirvana, Hole, near the end of Junior High started to get into grunge and alternative music, obviously in the riot girl movement. But yeah, I would say, like, when I put on the this band LIVE, like their big album with all the big singles on it, like, I've just been transported, you know? Crash Test Dummies, Garbage, REM, yeah, that music just It transports me to grade eight. Ace of Base, my God, right back into eighth grade!
When you think about the mission of your work, whether through your music or writing, what's the one wish you have for the LGBTQ plus community in terms of taking the shame out of sex and normalizing the coming out experience? You know, look, you know, normalizing is a funny word, because we've always tried to make space for the fact that I believe being LGBTQ+ is normal, but also we are weird, we're different, we're alternative, we're different than the normal, you know, average experience, because the world is is set up for cis, straight people. So as much as we normalize being gay, my experience as a gay person is still always going to be unique and different, because I am a minority. You know, my experience with the world is through the lens of someone who is not seeing themselves all the time. So, you know, I think what I hope by normalizing my experience as a queer person is I just create representation for other LGBTQ people to attach to, and I create more of a story for straight people to understand what it's like to be a queer person. But you know, my hope in being out was just, yeah, that I would take the shame out of being queer person, that I would take the fear out of it. But I don't know that my experiences is like everyone else's. So I also have learned over the course of 20 years that, you know, I have a lot of power, and a lot of I have a platform, and, you know, I am sis, and I can, you know, appear straight, or, sorry, yeah, straight. My brain was like, No, you can't. I can appear straight to straight people, you know, I'm, I think, femme and straight, passing to a lot of people, you know, in certain eras of my adulthood. And so I also acknowledge my privilege, that some of the heartbreak and strife and struggle and discrimination that LGBTQ people face even today I don't experience so, yeah. Anyway, I just feel like our work as artists and people has been to normalize and also carve as wide a path as we can while we're here, you know, to make more room for LGBTQ stories and people and experiences, all right.
With so much in common, sisters, musicians, standing up for what's right, have you ever reached the point of screw it? I'm done. If so, what brought you back? Meaning, do we ever think about quitting Tegan and Sara? Of course. You know, I said this in my answers to the Seattle Crush book tour. But you know, we're in a phase right now where we're acknowledging that we're just putting out way too much. We're doing too much work too, we're working too much. And I think that's a result of us trying to fill time that we used to spend touring, and now we're not touring, and we need to, we need to get that equation and that balance right. We cannot work every single second. We cannot just constantly put out stuff. It's too much. I think we can attach to other projects. We could consider producing other people's albums. We could consider being executive producers in the film and TV world on projects not related to us. You know, there's lots, there's plenty for us to be busy doing, but we don't need to constantly be mining ourselves. So, you know, I wouldn't say we're thinking of quitting Tegan and Sara I just think we're understanding that by mining ourselves constantly, we do put a lot of pressure on us so and I think we come back from the edge when we're thinking about quitting by just reminding ourselves how valuable this experience, being in a band and being ourselves has been, and we'll find value and joy and excitement and pleasure in it. Again, it's just we need to live our lives. You know? We need to diversify. We need to be, I need to be Tegan, not from Tegan and Sara. Sometimes, you know.
How did you choose the color scheme throughout the book? I already answered that. That was a Tillie Walden choice.
Are you guys expecting to put out another album in the near future? I don't know. I do not know. I think we would like to experiment with music. Maybe that's putting out one song, maybe it's putting out an EP like, maybe it's putting out two songs. Maybe it's like putting out an acoustic song and a really big pop song at the same time. I don't really know, you know, we love playing the old catalog, so we can tour whenever we want. You know, we want to take a break right now. We're not going to tour in 2025 so I think we'll come back and do some touring in 2026 and it would be nice to have a song or two out. But do we need another album? I don't know, like people will say, yes. Many people listening will go of course. And I think there will be a time where there's a collection of songs that feel like they need to come out together, and maybe that's the next thing we put out. I just don't know. We might also just maybe Sara's gonna write a song three months from now, and we're gonna be like, holy shit, that's gold. Let's put that out. I don't know. I think we're at a point in our career we need to go forward and just follow the path that's inspiring and not worry about it.
Is there a second season of the TV series High School? No, nope, there's not. You know, we loved the experience of adapting High School. Loved our collaborators, Clea and Laura, loved the cast, loved the experience of making a TV show. It was really cool. Unfortunately, you know, I think in the end, Freevee and Amazon weren't the right partner. I think, you know, they supported the making of the first season. But just, you know, even though it got rave reviews and had perfect rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and people seemed to really love it, they just, it just didn't do what they wanted, um, and unfortunately, kind of died on the vine. They didn't tell us for over a year that they weren't picking it up. So unfortunately, we weren't able to go out and shop it, which sucks. I wish they had just told us the truth and that they weren't going to make a second season. Unfortunately, you know, we had some people attached to the show who really loved the show and wanted to keep fighting for it, and then the writers strike happened, and, you know, the industry shutdown happened. And unfortunately, just a lot of time passed. And unfortunately, yeah, it just we weren't able to get a second season made. There are people who are exploring it, but I just wouldn't hold my breath. We're not. We've sort of moved on. And in a way, I love that. It joins a lot of really amazing one season TV shows like My So-Called Life, which really inspired the show. So yeah, it's heartbreaking on one hand, on the other hand, you know, it was hard. It's hard to mine your life. It's hard to see it on the screen. We are not the writers of the show. There were times where we struggled with how things were depicted. And in some ways, I guess it's a blessing that we can kind of move away from this and just let that first season just sit there. But, uh, yeah, it's a tough one. It was, it was a real process this last year, and I'm sorry that we weren't able to share more when it was happening, but that's the way that this industry works, and no more high school.
Does Tegan have her driver's license yet? Has she been driving lately? Guys, I still don't have my driver's license, but I have been driving every single day. I'm feeling quite confident I'm going to take driver's ed in the new year just to get all the road rules down make sure I'm ready for my test and I am going to get my driver's license, I hope in the first quarter of next year. I had a date held in July, but I got COVID, and I also felt like I was really rushing it, and I realized it was giving me anxiety. And with Crush coming out and Fanatical and touring and just lots of normal stuff happening, I was feeling very stressed out. So it's coming. I promise I'm gonna get my driver's license. I'm going to join adults with driver's licenses, but not till the new year.
Last question, looking back, did you have any core memories in middle school that you can attribute to realizing you were queer? Oh, I think this question came in twice, so I already answered that.
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